MG: Do you see any parallels between the social scene at the time of Pull My Daisy and the downtown New York scene today?
RF: No. Unfortunately, I don’t see any. Because in New York, it becomes more difficult to operate, to be free, because of the tremendous amount of money that you need to exist in New York. And I think it’s not that open. People know too much now. You know, they really want to be sure to succeed somehow.
MG: And back in 1959 it was much freer?
RF: It was much more open. Everything was possible, everything was new. But now that spirit doesn’t exist. Things are not that new. If they make new galleries on Avenue C, that’s a new location. But it’s a similar game. But in the late Fifties, early Sixties, there was a tremendous optimism to bring in something new, to make it different. People are much more careful today. They go to school for many years, they prepare everything very carefully. They know exactly what they want and how they want it. Because it must fit into this category, and this is where they have to fit in. Because if they don’t fit in, they don’t make it. They’re left lying down the road. And I think that’s a very strong feeling today, also with younger people, that they have to fit. None of us had that feeling. You didn’t have to fit. It was okay.